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+3sadakoKO @ 0kills(PMS) CarpeDiem(PMS) 7 posters | Author | Message |
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CarpeDiem(PMS)
Posts : 6 Join date : 2008-12-21
| Subject: Alisa BR strats plz! Sun Jan 25, 2009 6:17 pm | |
| I'll probably be making Alisa my main, cant wait to use her. Post up any discoveries you make! juggles, set-ups, oki etc
Once I get a chance to play i'll post whatever I find out.
Last edited by CarpeDiem(PMS) on Thu Jan 29, 2009 3:54 pm; edited 2 times in total | |
| | | @ 0kills(PMS)
Posts : 345 Join date : 2008-12-15 Age : 35 Location : makati
| Subject: Re: Alisa BR strats plz! Sun Jan 25, 2009 9:12 pm | |
| alisa is to gundam-girl fanatics as Carpe Diem is to me. I'll edit this once I get to play alisa don't worry. | |
| | | sadakoKO <FilCos>
Posts : 46 Join date : 2009-01-07 Age : 35 Location : QC
| Subject: Re: Alisa BR strats plz! Mon Jan 26, 2009 12:30 pm | |
| 3,2 is one of the top 10 for me. spammable.
personally, i dont recommend pulling DES out of nowhere. instead, do moves like 3,2 DES, then mixup to keep them guessing where il be slicing at them haha
f+3+4~b grab_df+2
fly cancel into grabs (like bombhead) or launcher.
4 and d+3 like crazy. (pokity-poke-poke) | |
| | | barbwire
Posts : 151 Join date : 2008-12-11 Location : atlantis 8
| Subject: Re: Alisa BR strats plz! Mon Jan 26, 2009 11:04 pm | |
| im no alisa user but using a bomb throw would be useless, it's such an easy grab to escape...i bet my whole months salary that i can escape that throw with my left eye closed. ngyahahaha! | |
| | | ANGELzer0(PMS)
Posts : 87 Join date : 2008-12-15 Location : psst! over here!! *SHOOTS*
| Subject: Re: Alisa BR strats plz! Tue Jan 27, 2009 8:09 am | |
| alisa setup (that you guys might know already...) f+3+4~b, (throw) pretty cheap, but it works...for now, given the new char syndrome of your opps. (unless your opp knows this one too hahaha) | |
| | | @ 0kills(PMS)
Posts : 345 Join date : 2008-12-15 Age : 35 Location : makati
| Subject: Re: Alisa BR strats plz! Tue Jan 27, 2009 2:22 pm | |
| - andromeda wrote:
- im no alisa user but using a bomb throw would be useless, it's such an easy grab to escape...i bet my whole months salary that i can escape that throw with my left eye closed. ngyahahaha!
der u go again with your salary. alisa's awesome. now i have no idea if i'll go with alisa or lars... maybe both? o.0 lars has some nasty stuff other characters have... while alisa has d/f+2. lol | |
| | | kodelka
Posts : 6 Join date : 2008-12-23
| Subject: Re: Alisa BR strats plz! Tue Jan 27, 2009 10:02 pm | |
| Gays choice of tekken characters, TEKKEN DR - LILI TEKKEN 6 - ZAFINA TEKKEN 6 BR - ALISA Mwahahahaha | |
| | | Fool (PMS)
Posts : 119 Join date : 2008-12-16 Age : 45
| Subject: Re: Alisa BR strats plz! Wed Jan 28, 2009 8:03 am | |
| Isn't she considered trash tier in tourney tier? | |
| | | @ 0kills(PMS)
Posts : 345 Join date : 2008-12-15 Age : 35 Location : makati
| Subject: Re: Alisa BR strats plz! Wed Jan 28, 2009 8:32 pm | |
| she's mid. but don't let that stop you. WR2 is possibly the fastest WR move i've seen in the game... but it's high. and WR34 has some sort of obvious start-up to it that I bet veteran players can easily recognize. sorry carpe and batista, I was apparently wrong with what I saw, f+3+4 is not the same as any of the previosuly mentioned moves. f+3+4 itself has reaaallly obvious start-up, and if you're listening you'll hear her say ikimasu (go!!).. and if your opponent sidewalks as your flying... death (or just throws out a jab). Her head throw (u/f+1+2) leaves the opponent far away... meaning no oki unless right next to wall. d+3 is such a good poke (too bad follow-up ain't NC). seems like she's a really technical character too.... won't get far with her unless one can do iWR AND iWS (For her u/f+44 B! and maybe d+3+4 once in a bluemoon) Not having a sweep sucks, but d/b+3 for a high crushing low that's only 11 is great... now if only d/f+2 crushed more if not at all, and d/b+3 had range we're set If you're getting pressured, d/b+1~1 (not sure of the notation but she does a backstep that techs highs and follows up with a punch that causes guard stun, delayable btw) can prolly buy you some time b+24(2) is insanely gay | |
| | | ANGELzer0(PMS)
Posts : 87 Join date : 2008-12-15 Location : psst! over here!! *SHOOTS*
| Subject: Re: Alisa BR strats plz! Wed Jan 28, 2009 8:56 pm | |
| do we get follow ups after d/b+3+4??? | |
| | | @ 0kills(PMS)
Posts : 345 Join date : 2008-12-15 Age : 35 Location : makati
| Subject: Re: Alisa BR strats plz! Thu Jan 29, 2009 3:47 pm | |
| what does d/b3+4 look like? is it the same as her d/b4 sweep on CH? anyway, ff+2 is also a good dash-in move (with an extention, not sure if both are safe). WR2, although alisa's legs leave the floor, doesn't make her go airborne... case in point: computer grabbed me sometime in between alisa's jetpacks activating and her punch (i actually saw the punch animation start... but still grabbed... meh) -> basically, what I'm saying is if your opponent isn't privy to the animation differences between WR2 and dash 2, you'll get a load of hesitation frames. last hit of d333 knocks-down opponents. (if people start crouching for the third hit, you could u/f+44) u/f+44 is nasty by itself even though it's a bit punishable.. can't be interrupted by jabs. but you have to be alert as well. for u/f44 B! , iws12 etc. will work for combos -> but the timing is really strict... my staple is simply uf44 B! f+2, 1 , f+233 -> but this doesn't do loads. f2 misses if you get u/f(4)4 however-> doesn't bound opponent , but not sure what follow-ups are there after... i just do d/b+4 atm cause i'm still new to alisa. alisa's standing 4 isn't that fast, but it pushes opponent back... sometimes you can net a f+4(blocked)~4 (CH) if your opponent reacts to early. d/b+1 (backstep)~1 gives a really nice guard stun but it's high and you can't cancel the stance either, which sucks. HOWEVER! if u do d/b+1~2... it's the unblockable rocket launcher weee! f+3+4, ws+4, b+2,1B!, f+2,3,3 guaranteed after so... lol | |
| | | CarpeDiem(PMS)
Posts : 6 Join date : 2008-12-21
| Subject: Re: Alisa BR strats plz! Thu Jan 29, 2009 4:28 pm | |
| Just played alot today: - I found both while running moves extremely useful: WR2 although high, gives guardstun on block, and gurantees f1+2 on hit. fff3,4 is probably my favourite move of hers(NC tracks both ways and gives wall splat) very deadly if you buffer it out of something like d/f4 on hit. - Wall carry: f,f3,4 was really useful for me leads to an easy b+2,1_b+4,3 B! f,f+2,3_ss4,1+2 or dash 2,3,3. Post bound near wall db2,2.. I also had one instance where I was able to get B! f,f+2,3 Wall then another f,f+2,3 but i'll have to test that abit more, seemed hard. - Punishers: 4(pretty sure its 12 frame, gives wall splat) f+1+2(13/14 frame? long range: used it against Steve's DCK2 Miguel's BR u/f+4 etc) Anyone know how fast ws2 is? anyway huge dmg while rising punish: I confirmed ws2 3+4 3, ws4, b+2,1 B! cant be quickrolled if done fast enough.. also if near a wall you can do ws2 3+4, 4 W b+2,1 B! but you have to be just the right distance. - Also db+4 doesnt gurantee anything(as far as i know) but if they quickstand/roll back f,f+2,3 will stand them up backwards. Or if they stay on the ground uf3+4.. - f,f+2 is launch punishable and pretty sure f,f+2,3 is punishable too(i'll confirm with what soon) - I also love her grounded 1+2 or 1+2, 3+4(instant low crush). Gives you an extra option as long as you dont use it too obviously you can get out of things like: Steve's 3+4 d+2 db+2 or Miguel's throw into db+1.. along with many many more, some of which can lead to a free launch for you . Very risky though so be careful! Sorry bout the messy post, i'll try and get some proper testing done within the next few days.
Last edited by CarpeDiem(PMS) on Thu Jan 29, 2009 5:34 pm; edited 1 time in total | |
| | | @ 0kills(PMS)
Posts : 345 Join date : 2008-12-15 Age : 35 Location : makati
| Subject: Re: Alisa BR strats plz! Thu Jan 29, 2009 4:43 pm | |
| mmm awesome post I'll incorporate all of these into my playing style as well. I'll also edit this if i find something new... eww at ff2 being lau8nch punishable | |
| | | barbwire
Posts : 151 Join date : 2008-12-11 Location : atlantis 8
| Subject: Re: Alisa BR strats plz! Thu Jan 29, 2009 8:27 pm | |
| this i need to see...alisa beating the hell out of steve... | |
| | | sadakoKO <FilCos>
Posts : 46 Join date : 2009-01-07 Age : 35 Location : QC
| Subject: Re: Alisa BR strats plz! Fri Jan 30, 2009 8:37 am | |
| db+1~2, f+3+4, ws+4, b+2,1B!, f+2,3,3 is fun! FLY cancel into Bomb Throw is good because you dont HAVE to always use the throw FLY 3 is a low slide. FLY 4 is a launch (like Miguel SAV 1+2). FLY cancel into df+2 etc. yes it may be easy to break. but if you mix up well, you opponent will be thinging about ducking or not, instead of 1+2 if the throw is made. WR+3,4 is LOVE! b+1 sets up the FC grab and WS+2, along with anything els you can think off - ANGELzer0(PMS) wrote:
- do we get follow ups after d/b+3+4???
AFAIK there is no db+3+4. there is a d+3+4. d+3+4 iWS+1,2, f+1, f+2,3,3 | |
| | | sadakoKO <FilCos>
Posts : 46 Join date : 2009-01-07 Age : 35 Location : QC
| Subject: Re: Alisa BR strats plz! Wed Feb 11, 2009 11:17 am | |
| - danielle wrote:
- AFAIK there is no db+3+4. there is a d+3+4. d+3+4 iWS+1,2, f+1, f+2,3,3
d+3+4, db+3, ws+1,2 b+4,3 B! is better, and easier to do | |
| | | @ 0kills(PMS)
Posts : 345 Join date : 2008-12-15 Age : 35 Location : makati
| Subject: Re: Alisa BR strats plz! Sun Feb 15, 2009 1:48 pm | |
| walang 1 before b43 B! (?) | |
| | | sadakoKO <FilCos>
Posts : 46 Join date : 2009-01-07 Age : 35 Location : QC
| Subject: Re: Alisa BR strats plz! Mon Feb 16, 2009 8:38 am | |
| new imbentong juggle df+2, 2,3, df+1, b+2,1 not 100% ha! - 0kills(PMS) wrote:
- walang 1 before b43 B! (?)
pwd din, but b+4,3 might whiff esp kung mejo malayo tama ng d+3+4 (in fact kung malayo talaga, pati un WS+1,2, whiff) note that kung b+2,1 un B! mo, always whiff kung me 1 pa | |
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