KAZUYA MISHIMA: Unleash the devil gene inside u (a noobie help for kaz :) )

ang pinakasulit is magpakulong sa bahay at magkabit ng joystick sa ps2 tekken 5 :D

Lamanglupa (PMS) wrote:

ano ang hori stick?

I am PMS wrote:

any arcade stick will do,got mine for about P800

sold it for 1K

hanap lang kayo online,sa mga ps3 user,pwede pero may interface pa na kailangan

rewarding ang kazuya pag aral mo talaga,but it gets boring as you go along.ang frustrating factor jan is the timing of his ewgf at df+2 launch..

you have to really practice EVERYDAY for it..skip a day,kakalawangin talaga laro mo,or you have to warm up before you get your game back together.

so,sa arcade"painit"muna...which sometimes sucks

sa mga asa sa allowance money jan,forget about kazuya.ubos pera at time...

gameplay tekken tag up to present BR- make use of the +5('not sure if i'm right sa BR) on block ng ewgf.
you have about 3 or more deadly options.2 short wavedash(doesn't have to be lightdash),2nd wave dish out another ewgf OR ws+4 OR hs..basic

1)nail down you ewgf
2)practice at least 2 wave dashes(consistent 1st & 2nd player)

that's it

nice tips.. :)



1p GFists at wave dash ang frustrating . haha but still nag papraktis pa ako mag kaz,, beginner pa lang ako sa mga mishima :)

ang suggestion ko is to get used to the korean grip. o.o malakas gamit nila sa fingers, pati pinky pang support. zomgash.

@Reddull
San m nabili sa greenhils ung stick?

5 frames? bale pag na block ung ewgf wavedash mixup or wavedash~pressure ? Overpowered ata kaz e, ung mga pokes nia "ata" hi dmg, safe, frame adv on block/hit?

Anu ba ang pinakambabang matchup ratio sa tekken? for example panda vs kaz? ilan un 7:3? in kaz's favor

was able to do 3 straight EWGF in a combo... pero nakalimutan ang db+2, kaya nag-CD+4,2 lang >.>

ZeRo(PMS) wrote:

Anu ba ang pinakambabang matchup ratio sa tekken? for example panda vs kaz? ilan un 7:3? in kaz's favor

alisa to steve - kasi uf+44 on block, ws+1,2 guaranteed

:P

ZeRo(PMS) wrote:

@Reddull
San m nabili sa greenhils ung stick?

5 frames? bale pag na block ung ewgf wavedash mixup or wavedash~pressure ? Overpowered ata kaz e, ung mga pokes nia "ata" hi dmg, safe, frame adv on block/hit?

Anu ba ang pinakambabang matchup ratio sa tekken? for example panda vs kaz? ilan un 7:3? in kaz's favor

overpowered kung kaya mong gawin

ewgf,well tama suggestion ni 0kills.. sobrang Vague lang
how would you expect newbies to know how koreans hold their arcade sticks?

each to his own..

db+4 on hit..pag mapalag opp.

df+2

as far as i remember,talo nya kahit 10frames or even duck jab

Redbull? san na reply ko

binaba yata nila ung + frames ng db4 compared sa t6. :( at least ws1 tracks well and 13f so maganda pa rin siya with wave into ws4 or (kung henyo ka ehem*) ws1. :0

di na pla msydo gumagana backdash ewgf compared sa dati :0 mas malaki range ng electric ni jin kesa kay kaz/dj (no idea kay hei)

wala na bang ibang shortcut yung ewgf? ginagawa ko lng kasi inaagahan ko lng ung pindot high punch tpos ung wave dash normal lng ung bilis ng execution q..

kay kazuya lang ano um... f n df+2 ung sa iba may down pa e sa kanya puwedeng wla :)

ewgf na 13f

f, n , 2~df

yan ang actual input nya.'di yan typo..ganyan talaga yan!mauuna ng konte ang 2 before df

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pW6EJ4HfaKg

pls dont kill me john lloyd, but in here it states f~n~df+2. in any case random trivia :

1.) ewgf is 11 frames, pero with the crouchdash input (f n d df)-> fastest is 3+11 = 14 frames.

BUT!

2.) kazuya has a mist-step with f n, together with f n df+2 -> 2+11 = 13 frames :D


about wavedash : may neutral ba before ung forward para i cancel into dash or puwedeng f n QCF n QCF n QCF?

mas mabilis ang response ng tact switch ng button kesa sa stick.

do your home work 0kills

ofcourse the common notation for 13f ewgf is f,n,df+2

but in reality,for you to be able to consistently hit the 13f,you got to input the 2 a 'lil earlier than df.dahil yung distance ng neutral position at df ay mas malayo,having a slight delayed response kesa sa reaction ng tact switch ng button.

well,i believe more on "feel" ang mga naka-perfect na ng df+2 ewgf launch.
sa simula lang ang visual guide.but,it really helps!

deceptive ang recovery time ng df+2

the hands(on df+2) doesn't have to be fully retracted to initiate ewgf

ang wave: f,n d~df~f rinse 'n repeat

I am PMS wrote:

ewgf na 13f

f, n , 2~df

yan ang actual input nya.'di yan typo..ganyan talaga yan!mauuna ng konte ang 2 before df

WA pde pla yan buffer wth... salamas master pms

edit: di ko magawa >_>

ZeRo(PMS) wrote:

I am PMS wrote:

ewgf na 13f

f, n , 2~df

yan ang actual input nya.'di yan typo..ganyan talaga yan!mauuna ng konte ang 2 before df

WA pde pla yan buffer wth... salamas master pms

edit: di ko magawa >_>

mash mo na lang

i hope madami gumaling na kaz sa PMS.gustuhin ko man mag adik,'di na pwede